Good Day Fellow Sys Admins -
Last Thursday I posed the following question.
==>
==> Hi Fellow Sys Admins -
==>
==> Approximately two years ago, the place where I am the sys admin
==> purchased two storageworks disk enclosures from DEC for the two
==> 4.0 GB disks they had purchased. I have since been told that DEC
==> no longer sells these, that you have to buy the disk AND the
==> enclosure that connects to the storage works socket in the
==> backplane. I have a call in to my DEC sales rep but thought I
==> would ask if any of you know of a third party sellor of these
==> enclosures.
==>
==> Any body know of a sellor?
==>
==> Kris Larsen
==>
==>
I received the following replies:
==> From cprice_at_biocomp.unl.edu Thu May 28 11:32:27 1998
==>
==> Try Mark Parker, Reptec Canada.
==> Mark Parker <mparker_at_reptechcanada.com>
==>
==> Chad
==>
==> Chad Price
==> Systems Manager
==> University of Nebraska
==> cprice_at_molbio.unmc.edu
==> (402) 472-4527 M-W-F
==> (402) 559-9527 T-Th
==>
I contacted Mark and he had two in stock and was trying to
find two more for me.
==> From mparker_at_reptechcanada.com Thu May 28 12:27:27 1998
==>
==> Hi Kris,
==>
==> As you have discovered Digital discontinued the carrier approximately
==> 6 months ago. Do you require support for narrow or wide drives?
==> - I do have two narrow carriers in stock and have made a few calls
==> see if I can round up a couple more.
==>
==> Please give me a call and we can discuss further - 416-703-7545.
==>
==> All The Best, Mark Parker
==>
==> -----------------------------------------------------------------------
==> Mark Parker, Sales Representative Phone: 416-703-7545
==> Reptech Canada Inc. Fax: 416-703-7544
==> 652A Queen Street West E-mail: mparker_at_reptechcanada.com
==> Toronto, Ontario
==> M6J 1E5
==> -----------------------------------------------------------------------
==>
==>
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Next reply:
==> From erik_at_ikp.liu.se Thu May 28 11:34:53 1998
==>
==> Congratulations and welcome to the club of losers. ;-)
Yes, sometimes don't we feel like we are.
==>
==> I managed to buy 3rd party SW carriers from a firm called Exodata in
==> sweden (www.exodata.se), but DEC has appearently put in a great effort
==> to eliminate them from the 3rd party market. You might give them a
==> call and ask where they got theirs from or if they know about sources
==> in the U.S.
I went to Exodata and they apparently no longer are DEC resellers.
They only advertised SUN products. I did not pursue them any further.
==>
==> Myself, I will probably scrap my SW shelves in favour of Andataco ESP
==> shelves in a not to distant future. They are really nice in terms of
==> features and robustness and cost about the same as comparable SW
==> shelves. Moreover, the ESP carriers cost much less than a comparable
==> SW carriers.
I asked Erik to tell me more about the ESP shelves. That reply follows
his first message so that his messages are together.
==>
==> /Erik
==>
==> --
==> Erik Persson, System Manager e-mail: erik_at_ikp.liu.se
==> Dept. of Mech. Engineering Voice: +46 13 28 2464
==> University of Link=F6ping, Sweden Fax: +46 13 21 2717
==>
==> From erik_at_ikp.liu.se Thu May 28 11:56:55 1998
==>
==> klarsen_at_enterprise.afit.af.mil (Kristin (Kris) Larsen) writes:
==>
==> > Erik -
==> >
==> > Please tell me more about these ESP shelves. Do they go into the
==> > 2100 and other machines replacing the SW shelves, or will they be
==> > external?
==>
==> They come in both flavours - rackmount or piedestal. The rackmount
==> should fit in any 19" rack. We do not have any ESP shelves mounted in
==> Digital 19" racks and I don't know wether the small 2100 enclosures
==> have any restrictions (the ESP shelves are rather deep) so I can of
==> course not be 100% sure about it. We do have two clustered AS4000
==> mounted in a full-hight rack and a quick inspection tells me that the
==> ESP shelf indeed would fit in that rack.
==>
==> There are three things that really make me like andatacos shelves:
==>
==> * Dual power supplies are standard
==> * Every slot has a button for putting the disk on- and offline
==> * Inexpensive carriers (a carrier for a fast narrow disk costs about
==> $80, and a carrier for a wide/SCA disk costs only half of that.
==>
==> I think that there only are ESP racks for wide SCSI, which offers the
==> possibility to connect narrow disks, but you will need a wide
==> controller on the host side.
==>
==> /Erik
==>
==> --
==> Erik Persson, System Manager e-mail: erik_at_ikp.liu.se
==> Dept. of Mech. Engineering Voice: +46 13 28 2464
==> University of Link=F6ping, Sweden Fax: +46 13 21 2717
==>
They sound interesting and worth investigating for the future when
DEC nolonger supports the 2100.
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another reply:
==> From claudia.burg_at_asu.edu Thu May 28 13:00:54 1998
==>
==> Kris
==>
==> try MTI
==>
==> 1111 pasquinelli dr suite 400
==> westmont, il 60559-1272
==> (630) 325 - 4151 phone
==> (630) 325 - 4230 fax
==> 1-800 335 - 7374
==>
==> i recomend MTI first by a long shot, but if you are desperate try western
==> scientific. they have, shall we say, comunication problems.... i am not
==> very pleased with them, but MTI recently stoped selling DAT drives.
==>
==> 1-800 443 - 6699
==> www.wsm.com
==>
==> claudia
==>
==> *********************************************************
==> * Message From: *
==> * Claudia-Angelica Teresa Chiarenza Burg *
==> * aka Gigi *
==> * Claudia *
==> * G^2 *
==> * Currently Computing From: Arizona State University *
==> * Working on: a PhD in Physics and Astronomy *
==> * Claudia.Burg_at_asu.edu *
==> *********************************************************
==>
==>
I have not checked out these two sites.
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and another reply:
==> From bbahnmil_at_redwood.dn.hac.com Thu May 28 14:27:15 1998
==>
==> Kristin,
==>
==> I ran into a similar problem. I had 2 2100's with a lot of empty disk
==> slots and a surplus of raw 4GB drives. DEC wouldn't sell me the cases.
==> We ended up buying a bunch of used cases from CPU Options -
==>
http://www.cpuoptions.com/
==>
==> You can also get new cases from the Newman Group -
==>
http://www.newman.com/
==>
==> I did find one interesting little problem with the used cases. I got 2
==> cases where the power connector on the ribbon cable was about a 1/4" longer
==> than others. The 4 GB drives wouldn't fit in the case with that power
==> connector.
==>
==> Anyhow, good luck,
==>
==> Bryan
==>
This company, cpuoptions is the only reseller my DEC rep said
that he knew. The info he gave me was,
CPUOPTIONS
1-800-777-6567
They are only selling these until the 12th. I think that is what
he said in his voice mail.
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==> From treahy_at_allianceelec.com Thu May 28 11:38:38 1998
==>
==> Please summarize what you find...
==>
Is this good Barry?
Received on Mon Jun 01 1998 - 18:01:05 NZST